2020 Subaru Outback; Dealer Markups on Popular Cars | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #217

This week our experts share their first impressions of the 2020 Subaru Outback, discussing the latest iteration of Subaru's EyeSight advanced safety system, the available turbo four-cylinder engine, and the large touch screen. We also answer audience questions, including what to do when a dealer marks up the price of a popular, hard to find vehicle like the Kia Telluride; is there a significant reliability difference in the first year of a new or redesigned car; and can premium fuel boost your engine's horsepower.

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SHOW NOTES
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0:25 – 2020 Subaru Outback

12:48 – Audience Questions

13:13 – Video Question #1: Why do dealers markup certain models (like the Kia Telluride)?

16:32 – Question #2: Reliability concerns with the 2020 Kia Soul

18:27 – Question #3: Horsepower ratings with premium fuel

20:40 – Question #4: Are problems under warranty predictive of problems outside of warranty?

22:43 – Question #5: What’s the best handling compact car on the market?

LINKS
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2019 New York Auto Show: 2020 Subaru Outback:

2015 Subaru Outback and Legacy:

2019 Detroit Auto Show: 2020 Kia Telluride:

Chrysler Pacifica Redefines the Minivan:

2018 Kia Stinger Quick Drive:

Toyota Prius C review:

2017 BMW 3 Series Quick Drive:

2014 BMW 2 Series Review:

2018 Tesla Model 3 Quick Drive:

2015 Volkswagen GTI Quick Drive:

20 Comments on "2020 Subaru Outback; Dealer Markups on Popular Cars | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #217"

  1. I really enjoy your videos!

  2. The new Subaru Swagon… Good show team… 😎👍

  3. 2021 outback hybrid pls

  4. With the Telluride it’s a good idea to wait until they release the 2021 Telluride and work out all the kinks. You may even be able to find a used Telluride next year.

  5. Right Lane Hog | August 23, 2019 at 6:16 pm | Reply

    The Outback is a wagon, W-A-G-O-N say it, say it!!!!!!!!!

  6. I bought a 19 a couple months ago. I had thought about waiting, but thought even though the new one may be better, the 19 is still a great car for the money , especially the base model after the discount.

  7. Dear CR,
    The dealer markup also applies on the Palisade. I am having trouble getting one from the dealer because they get sold right away, so I tried putting money down to preorder one, and each dealer I want to refused to take preorders. I Finally got a hold of one and the dealer marked it up by $5k above MSRP, although the internet price on the dealer website says otherwise. So I decided to go to a different dealer, and they also marked it up by $5k. My question to you is it right and legal of any dealers to markup cars above MSRP?

  8. I have a question you might want to answer in the next Talking Cars. Some people believe that the country where a car is assembled affects the quality and/or reliability of a car. Are cars assembled in Mexico as good as cars assembled in Canada? I think some people are sure cars assembled in Japan will be better. What does your research show on this?

  9. How do you recommend the Kia Telluride and say it is a good choice when you say that first year cars usually have a lot of bugs???? You say that buyers should wait year or a two until most issues are debugged then you recommend a telluride………..

  10. We use premium 91 with no ethanol in our 2015 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 turbo and you definitely notice much more powerful and it’s much smoother. Would never use anything else in this

  11. Wait until the stealerships get their hands on the Corvette C8, expect some serious mark-ups.

  12. What crack is this guy smoking? The Palisade has been marked up by numerous dealers…

  13. Stayin’ Alive

  14. Gordon Chaffin | August 23, 2019 at 7:56 pm | Reply

    So, none of these systems are as good UI and UX as Tesla Autopilot? Check.

  15. pedro fernandez | August 23, 2019 at 8:07 pm | Reply

    All these new cars are so damn confusing, I am keeping my older Toyota for as long as it runs, and then even I may replace the engine if it dies.

  16. I’m pretty sure that Apple limits the screen size that Car Play can be used. Subaru couldn’t go full screen even if they wanted to.

  17. Average Machinist | August 23, 2019 at 9:02 pm | Reply

    Dealer markups are despicable. I had a dealer try that on me, and I walked out them.

  18. One point they failed to make with the 2020 is with the implementation of the SGP chassis there is increased crash protection along with the other positives vs the older Gen5 outback

  19. In the Questions & Answers section, Ryan wrote in seeking advise on replacing his 2004 Suzuki Grand Vitara. His question was, “Is there going to be that much of a difference between the first year of the new model and the first batch of the second year?” You answered Ryan’s question about first year reliability in general. But what about his specific question. Will the first batch of the second year possibly have some subtle improvements incorporated in either hardware or software? Thanks – love the show.

  20. CarterBurtonMotorsportsDotCom | August 23, 2019 at 10:13 pm | Reply

    Got our Telluride the first month they were on the lots. No mark-up. And below MSRP. I was shocked when I saw the mark-ups when I revisited the dealer for it’s first oil change. O saw $5-8k mark-ups on all trim levels.

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